{"id":6805,"date":"2017-03-16T15:45:33","date_gmt":"2017-03-16T10:00:33","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/pahichan.com\/?p=6805"},"modified":"2017-03-16T15:45:33","modified_gmt":"2017-03-16T10:00:33","slug":"the-trans-activists-standing-up-to-the-brutal-gangs-of-el-salvador","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/pahichan.com\/en\/the-trans-activists-standing-up-to-the-brutal-gangs-of-el-salvador\/","title":{"rendered":"The Trans Activists Standing Up to the Brutal Gangs of El Salvador"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"Dek\">TIM TEEMAN (Pahichan) March 16 &#8211; The recent murders of three trans women in El Salvador garnered international headlines. Salvadoran activists talk about the violence, and their life-risking campaigning for change.<\/div>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<div class=\"authors\">\n<div class=\"author\"><a class=\"author-photo\" href=\"http:\/\/www.thedailybeast.com\/contributors\/tim-teeman.html\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/cdn.thedailybeast.com\/etc\/authors\/t\/tim-teeman\/image.crop.96.96.jpg\/46462018.cached.jpg\" alt=\"Tim Teeman\" \/><\/a>Imagine a typical day at work including the ever-present possibility that you may be murdered.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"BodyNodes\">\n<div class=\"Text\">\n<p>\u201cWe live with the uncertainty,\u201d said Ver\u00f3nica L\u00f3pez, a trans woman and board president of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/astranslgbti\" target=\"_blank\">ASTRANS<\/a>, one of El Salvador\u2019s leading trans rights organizations. \u201cWe do not know if we will come back home, or come to work the next day. You get accustomed to it. We have little choice. We know if we do something that is not liked we can be killed.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"Text\">\n<p>\u201cI help trans women at our clinic, and when I think about going there I think, they\u2019re going to kill me in this office,\u201d said Dr. Modesto Mendiz\u00e1bal, an ASTRANS board member who oversees the medical and psychological help and hormone therapy ASTRANS offers to over 100 clients. \u201cColleagues of ours have gotten killed. It\u2019s very painful, but it is something that happens. I am not surprised.\u201d (ASTRANS stands for Asociaci\u00f3n Salvadore\u00f1a de Transg\u00e9neras, Transexuales y Travestis, or translated: the Salvadoran Association of Transgender, Transsexual and Transvestite Women.)<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"Text\">\n<p>A brightly lit room with cups of coffee and glasses of water in Midtown Manhattan seemed far from <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thedailybeast.com\/articles\/2016\/10\/23\/letter-from-el-salvador-i-was-jailed-for-a-miscarriage.html\">El Salvador<\/a>. But the stories of extreme violence and persecution endured by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thedailybeast.com\/topics\/lgbtqia.html\">lesbian, gay, bisexual and particularly transgender people<\/a> as told by the members of ASTRANS felt sharply near.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"Text\">\n<p>As we sat in the offices of the <a href=\"https:\/\/ajws.org\/\" target=\"_blank\">American Jewish World Service (AJWS)<\/a>, the international human rights organization which funds and supports the work of ASTRANS, a member of the trans campaigning and support group related the story of two female colleagues who had been attacked and assaulted. They were both raped, suffering fissures in their anuses.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"Text\">\n<p>Gang members asked one of the victims where her family lived. \u201cThat family had to move, far, far away, and the family completely disintegrated as a result. They took everything they needed to take, and left,\u201d an ASTRANS member said. (For all gang-related and other deemed-sensitive stories in this article, the group\u2019s members asked for their individual names not to be used.)<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"TealiumTeads\">\n<div class=\"TealiumTeads__before\">\u201cAnother staff member was pulled out of her home, raped, and beaten up. She was told, \u2018If you don\u2019t come with us, you know what is going to happen.\u2019 They would have killed her, her brothers, and her family. This goes on daily. It\u2019s really, really scary.\u201d<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"Text\">\n<p>One of ASTRANS\u2019s clients who had been forced to leave her mother and family wanted to kill herself.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"Text\">\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s impossible for her to go home. When someone receives a threat that they will be murdered they have to leave. You can\u2019t come back. If you do, gang members will murder you. This woman lost communication with her mother and brothers. She decided to commit suicide. Luckily we got her some help and anti-depressants. It\u2019s a small example of a much deeper problem. It is not just individuals being threatened, but entire families. Gangs tell them, \u2018We\u2019ll not just kill you, we will kill all your loved ones too.\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"Text\">\n<p>Trans women are already at risk of suffering disproportionately from poverty, violence, and social exclusion, said ASTRANS. Fleeing persecution, they go to Guatemala, Mexico, and the U.S., among other countries.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"Text\">\n<p>The level of persecution faced by El Salvador\u2019s LGBTI community made international headlines recently, with the widely publicized murders of three trans women in the San Luis Talpa municipality of the La Paz department of El Salvador, between Feb. 18 and 21.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"Text\">\n<p>One accompanying report stated that the average life expectancy of a trans person in the Central American nation was 35 years. While the El Salvadoran government has vowed to investigate the murders as hate crimes, activists suspect that they will not be\u2014and the perpetrators not be caught.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"InlineNewsletter InlineNewsletter_standard\">\n<div class=\"InlineNewsletter-main\">\n<form class=\"InlineNewsletter-form\">\n<div class=\"InlineNewsletter-title\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"InlineNewsletter-message\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonblade.com\/2017\/02\/25\/state-department-supports-investigation-el-salvador-trans-murders\" target=\"_blank\">The U.S. State Department told the Washington Blade<\/a> that it \u201csupports\u201d the investigation into the killings.<\/div>\n<\/form>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"Text\">\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonblade.com\/2017\/03\/02\/lgbt-migrants-flee-violence-poverty-central-america\/\" target=\"_blank\">In a wide-ranging report on LGBT violence in Central America<\/a>, the Blade reported that \u201cmore than a dozen\u201d trans women were killed in El Salvador in 2015. Karla Guevara, director of trans advocacy group, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/AsociacionColectivoAlejandriaElSalvador\" target=\"_blank\">Colectivo Alejandr\u00eda<\/a>, told the Blade that the country was \u201ctotally full of hate.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"Text\">\n<p>An ASTRANS member said, \u201cWe\u2019re not exactly sure what happened with these most recent murders. The gangs have stopped the media talking to family members. There\u2019s a particular threat in that city and that state against LGBT people. Some have left everything behind because they are afraid of being killed. All this is combined with high levels of impunity\u2014cases that are either not investigated, or criminals who have gotten off \u2018scot-free.\u2019<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"Text\">\n<p>\u201cAfter the civil war (which took place between 1980 and 1992), we hoped the situation was going to get better or be better controlled. But the murder rate is so high (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.cnn.com\/2017\/01\/13\/americas\/el-salvador-zero-murder-day\" target=\"_blank\">there were headlines in January<\/a> when the country recorded its first homicide-free day in two years), and LGBTI people are much more vulnerable. This part of the country specifically has more criminal acts and threats than any other places, and violence too. This is a very violent country: There is not even enough space for dead bodies in morgues.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"Text\">\n<p>\u201cThere was a document released after the murders of the three women around hate crimes, and the district attorney has promised to reopen the cases\u2014under pressure from international press and media\u2014but it hasn\u2019t happened yet.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"Text\">\n<p>Gangs typically shoot LGBTI people, and disfigure them with bullets to the face, the ASTRANS member said. \u201cOne of our friends, a gay professor at a university, was killed this way, and so was another activist. Both were shot in the forehead.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"Text\">\n<p>Both murders have gone unsolved. \u201cThe district attorney has not pursued them, no witnesses had come forward, and the judgment of judges is usually prejudiced,\u201d an ASTRANS member said.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"Text\">\n<p>In gang killings, the ASTRANS member said, trans people have their clothing removed to humiliate them even more, \u201cexposing their genitals, so revealing a person who looks feminine and who has a penis. In some cases they have been stoned to death, or murdered with a machete, but usually it is a firearm. There is a very high level of violence and hatred in the murders of trans people. In the code of the gangs, being trans is seen as something negative: People do not differentiate a trans person as distinct from a homosexual person.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"Text\">\n<p>As well as supporting trans people and speaking out on the issue of their life-or-death forced migration\u2014either within the country or having to leave it altogether\u2014ASTRANS said it is the only organization in El Salvador to provide gender-affirming hormone therapy.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"Text\">\n<p>The organization\u2019s clients are learning how to interpret their laboratory results, identify risks, and act accordingly, ASTRANS says. \u201cAs part of their care, they are complying with hormone treatment and changing nutritional and physical habits to optimize their treatment. They are also avoiding risks such as self-medication and intoxication.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"Text\">\n<p>Anti-LGBT and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thedailybeast.com\/articles\/2017\/01\/28\/will-anti-trans-bathroom-bills-ever-die.html\">trans<\/a> prejudice is rooted in stereotypes of machismo, said Mendiz\u00e1bal, who is gay, \u201cas well as a very religious society where it is considered a sin or vice to have a different orientation than the one society expects of you. You can\u2019t be sure that the crimes against these women were done just because they were trans. The ways they were murdered was the same, but this is a mix of criminality, violence, and transphobia.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"Text\">\n<p>Since 2014, AJWS has been working with ASTRANS to advance the rights of trans people by conducting human rights training, carrying out workshops with key public officials, providing health services for trans people, and contributing to national and international advocacy forums.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"Text\">\n<p>Through a grant from AJWS, ASTRANS is providing health services and psychological support for new and returning trans patients through their health clinic.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"Text\">\n<p>ASTRANS is also leading local and national advocacy efforts around Transgender Identity Law and for the investigation of LGBTI hate crimes.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"Text\">\n<p>While marriage equality and recognition of same-sex unions seem at-present distant possibilities, Presidential Decree 56, issued in 2010, prohibits discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity in the public sector, and created a Directorate For Sexual Identity within the Secretariat For Social Inclusion.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"Text\">\n<p>However, violence and prejudice against LGBTI people remains high, as does police and official inaction over tackling them as outlined in a 2015 State Department report (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.state.gov\/documents\/organization\/253225.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">PDF<\/a>). That same year, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.advocate.com\/crime\/2015\/06\/09\/salvadoran-trans-activists-murder-stirs-international-outcry-1\" target=\"_blank\">Francela M\u00e9ndez Rodr\u00edguez<\/a>, a prominent Salvadoran trans rights activist, was murdered.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"Text\">\n<p>\u201cI think we have to talk about culture,\u201d said L\u00f3pez. \u201cThey are not willing to create laws that protect human rights in El Salvador. There is reform to address hate crimes, and some institutions are doing investigations but not applying laws.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"Text\">\n<p>The aim of ASTRANS is to work within states, district attorneys, organizations, and various state and government departments, she added. Other LGBT groups include <a href=\"https:\/\/es-la.facebook.com\/asociacionentreamigoslgbtideelsalvador\/\" target=\"_blank\">Asociaci\u00f3n Entre Amigos<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/ht503.blogspot.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">Generaci\u00f3n de Hombres Trans de El Salvador<\/a>, and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/esmules.elsalvador\" target=\"_blank\">Espacio de Mujeres Lesbianas por la Diversidad<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"Text\">\n<p>Mendiz\u00e1bal said: \u201cWe need space to demonstrate our qualities that we are not something bad for society, that our lives are sustaining for our country. The Department of Social Inclusion leads work on LGBT work from central government, but there are very few resources. We want to improve visibility of the trans community, and show our skills, and create a window for <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/esmules.elsalvador\/\" target=\"_blank\">LGBT people<\/a>.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"Text\">\n<p>Sebasti\u00e1n Flores Cerritos, a trans man and communications officer for ASTRANS, said that the political conflicts in El Salvador were harmfully reflected back on to LGBT people. \u201cThe political forces are constantly at war and social issues, like LGBT, are seen as an instrument to regain power. Every time the issues comes up in our country, it\u2019s as a strategy, and then the homophobic people get really crazy, and aggression and homicides happen.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"Text\">\n<p><b>***<\/b><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"Text\">\n<p>Aside from being murdered or attacked, trans people are excluded from many other social spaces and often rejected by their families, said Mendiz\u00e1bal. They can be forced into sex work or selling drugs. \u201cSome are accepted by their families, but very few. They experience exclusion in schools. Bullying is very, very hard, so many abandon their education.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"Text\">\n<p>\u201cWe assembled a focus group of 20 trans women; the majority\u201418 of them\u2014talked about the importance of spirituality for them. They looked to church, and went there to listen to messages, because they felt tormented by their exclusion from society. The majority of their experiences was negative. They could find no space to be themselves, had psychological violence done to them, and experienced aggressive stereotyping at home and hospitals.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"Text\">\n<p>L\u00f3pez said her efforts to access a proper education and health care had been hindered because her gender identity was not recognized.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"Text\">\n<p>The experience of trans people and the civil, military and municipal police forces in El Salvador is mostly negative. \u201cThe experience of trans women in particular is that they suffer all kinds of violence, including sexual violence, and extortion at the hands of the police,\u201d said one ASTRANS member. \u201cWe also know of a physically small guy who was beaten by the police, who were much bigger than he was, and then he was accused of beating the police himself.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"Text\">\n<p>Another member told a story of a young trans man, thrown into jail by police after Pride celebrations in 2015, who considered him\u2014without evidence\u2014to be a delinquent. \u201cThe police assume young people are gang members.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"Text\">\n<p>When the ASTRANS member and their friends went to the police station \u201cthey looked at us like they wanted to hit us,\u201d then confiscated the member\u2019s cellphone. \u201cMy friend was treated in a very inhumane way. He was being criminalized as if he had done something wrong. The police should have been protecting us.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"Text\">\n<p>\u201cThere is a lot of violence from the police and army, but you cannot say the entire police is bad,\u201d said Mendiz\u00e1bal. \u201cThere are good police and there are bad police. There are police that are in communication with LGBTI people, but only a few of them. Sometimes the police take care of trans people, as in the case of some trans women who had been kidnapped by a gang. That time the police intervened, and saved their lives.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"Text\">\n<p>What would help would be a full non-discrimination law, said L\u00f3pez. \u201cIt would not solve our lives, but it would help make society to be more inclusive and respectful of LGBTI human rights. A gender identity law for trans people would be good, so we can access our rights, because without a law that doesn\u2019t identify us we don\u2019t exist in our country.\u201d Mendiz\u00e1bal said hate crimes needed to be prosecuted fully under the country\u2019s penal code.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"Text\">\n<p>The prevalence of gangs, and their control is all-pervasive. One ASTRANS member said that if someone asks to see your ID, which shows that you live somewhere else, you can be asked why are you in that particular neighborhood.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"Text\">\n<p>\u201cYou have to be very careful and very aware of where you\u2019re going to, and the certain zones of a city. I once got a wrong bus, and ended up somewhere I shouldn\u2019t be. I was somewhere where gangs killed people. I was able to get out. Nobody is safe. You have to try and be careful. It can have an impact on family and friends, because they can go and kill someone else in my family. Some projects have to pay off gang members to reach trans people in various communities.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"Text\">\n<p>With such tough work, how do the ASTRANS members remain committed? Jorge L\u00f3pez, who defines himself as a queer man and who oversees the organization\u2019s finances and administrative matters, said: \u201cTrans individuals have disadvantages when it comes to being members of the community. I want to help them have a right to live better and have jobs.\u201d He stifled tears. \u201cI get very emotional when I think about this. It\u2019s about how you are as a citizen.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"Text\">\n<p>Mendiz\u00e1bal added, \u201cMany people say here that they are proud of being American. Like you, we are proud of being from El Salvador, and we love our country. We don\u2019t want to leave our country. We want to develop our rights and equality. We believe our country will get better one day.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"Text\">\n<p>Next, ASTRANS wants to launch a campaign against the stigmatization of trans identities, and the phenomenon of trans women \u201cover-hormoning\u201d themselves. AJWS gave them a sum of money which helped expand their clinical services. Mendiz\u00e1bal is a volunteer, and there is also a volunteer psychologist. They hope to be able to secure funds to be able to pay a nurse.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"Text\">\n<p>\u201cMore than trans social rights, good health, well-being, and psychological stability are all part of someone\u2019s self-realization,\u201d said Mendiz\u00e1bal. \u201cWe hope we can help people become more confident and affirmed with their identity and happier with themselves.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"Text\">\n<p><b>***<\/b><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"Text\">\n<p>The changing priorities from an <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thedailybeast.com\/topics\/barack-obama.html\">Obama<\/a> to a Trump administration, in terms of foreign aid and advocacy, has alarmed activists.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"Text\">\n<p>\u201cThere is a lot of uncertainty,\u201d said Mendiz\u00e1bal. \u201cWe are very dependent on the United States. What happens here has an impact globally. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thedailybeast.com\/articles\/2017\/02\/22\/bully-trump-s-new-target-transgender-students.html\">The anti-trans law<\/a> that was just announced was a big alarm for us. It gives more value to anti-trans activists in El Salvador.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"Text\">\n<p>While there hasn\u2019t been an outbreak of bathroom-related panics and bills in El Salvador, the country \u201ctakes its cues from the U.S.,\u201d said Mendiz\u00e1bal, \u201cso they go as far as they can get away with things one way or another. Under Obama, the administration moved toward human rights. When there is no human rights advocacy and when foreign aid may be dependent on ramping up the fight against terrorism, rather than human rights, we may see some negative effects for what that might mean for more marginalized populations and the advocacy for their own rights.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"Text\">\n<p>The ASTRANS activists are determined to persevere. When Cerritos wanted to start hormone therapy in 2013, he went to a hospital and was told \u201cthat I was crazy, that I should think about it, that I wouldn\u2019t be able to pay for it, that my parents wouldn\u2019t support me. I didn\u2019t feel confident. I didn\u2019t want to see a psychologist who would make me feel bad about myself. I had to seek other help, and other trans men, and self-medicate.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"Text\">\n<p>Cerritos said he had to leave El Salvador and go to Guatemala to access the care he needed, \u201cbut it took me a year and a half to be able to start my transition because I needed to save money for the trip and consultation. It was very expensive. I had no economic support from my parents and I was also a student. It wasn&#8217;t easy.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"Text\">\n<p>How is his family now? \u201cWell, it\u2019s a process for my family. Because they have been living with someone for 20 years and that person is now doing a very radical change. It is not easy, it is hard for them. They fear how society is. They are afraid something might happen to me. They are frightened for my safety, but they try to be strong.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"Text\">\n<p>How is Cerritos feeling? Is he living the life he wants in El Salvador?<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"Text\">\n<p>\u201cYes, I feel very motivated right now. Activism and starting my treatment have [totally] changed my perspective on life&#8230; Before, I didn\u2019t want to study or see anyone. Now that has all changed. The support of my parents has been fundamental. They didn\u2019t abandon me. They never abandoned me. And I have been able to find people in activism that lend me a hand in different ways and make me motivated to continue to fight for something bigger.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Copy :\u00a0http:\/\/www.thedailybeast.com<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>TIM TEEMAN (Pahichan) March 16 &#8211; The recent murders of three trans women in El Salvador garnered international headlines. 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